lotus takes the quotation seriously "you can understand the beauty of the flower knowing that it must die". die house die she seems to be saying here, hoping that beauty is around the next corner.
1 renovator combo, regular price, $189, now $149 (while quantities last) equals more demolitions. Keep in ind that you bought a renovator power tool combo.
those wires happen to be how i turn my kitchen light on, for the time being! couple of loose wires hanging from the ceiling and a wire nut ... "let there be light!"
someone narrating an incident yesterday asked me if i knew what a reciprocating saw was. i sd, "yeah, a sawzall, very handy for tearing out drywall, or cutting holes for receptacles." *grin*
i thought a jigsaw came in the renovator combo. i didn't get a jigsaw. i did pay $149, or $159. Can't remember which. Are you talking abt a different package that is on sale NOW?
i got the sawzall, the 5 1/2 circular saw, the drill/screwdriver, the vacuum, and i forget what else. i have two batteries and the charger with it. in a separate buy, i got the miter saw. all ryobi. the original box i took back did not have a reciprocating saw.
well, me and bunny did it. that was some work getting that header up as we had to use the scissor jack to jack the durn thing up to get the header boards in!
a breeze!!!??? except for that jacking it up part. actually, that wasn't REAL bad except byron kept saying "watch that it doesn't jump out" i wasn't sure if he meant the jack or the header boards, so i was trying to keep an eye on both!
notice the hardware for an old pocket door in there? decided to leave that as it looked like more work to get out than it might be worth. figured i'd tear it up trying to get it out. did salvage the door itself tho. it's quite small. maybe 24", if i'm stretching it. it didn't work before we started tearing out the wall. it was stuck in the wall. then, miraculously, it decided to work abt the time we decided to tear it out. lol. anyway, i wanted to close the wall on that end of the kitchen so i can put the new cabinets in there. also, it gives me wall space on the other side in the LR, which is the most likely spot for the new fireplace i ordered.
that's where the old ventahood was wired in. those crazy people were venting it directly into the attic with no exterior hole to the outside! byron sd that meant all the smoke and grease and soot was accumulating in the attic waiting for a fire to happen. guess now it doesn't matter where i put a ventahood, as a hole has to be cut through the roof anyway!
guess i can look at the self venting stove tops too, see what i think of them.
that's right! you can now see clear through fm the baywindow in the LR through that pic window in the kitchen. those curtains will come down. those are just the temporary window coverings on a rod on a couple of nails for privacy and heat conservation in the interim.
yes. i mentioned that possibility to byron but he suggested i'd prefer a little bit of privacy on the stove, sink side of the kitchen. there's still time to cut the hole back out again (cement board! haha - for fireproofing behind the stove area) if it starts seeming like a good idea. if so though, it might mean another header which puts headers pretty much all the way across that end of the house, and not much in the way of wall studs. that was the real reason i bypassed on the pass-through this past weekend.
that's right! you can now see clear through fm the baywindow in the LR through that pic window in the kitchen. those curtains will come down. those are just the temporary window coverings on a rod on a couple of nails for privacy and heat conservation in the interim.
see that portion of wall beyond the cement board? we did not close that up because i was considering shallow shelving in the wall there, spice jar depth. the whole cabinetry on the far wall is coming out. that's all that is left. will redo it all.
You want to vent cooking steam and gases into the atmosphere. Self-venting is only good if it is truly utilized with the appliances that draw the stuff from the stove out into the yard. You will likely have to put the stove on an outside wall for this function. A through the attic vent hood allows you to place your stove anywhere.
Okay. I do think you can find one of those curved mirrors that are on the fender of school buses so the driver can see around the bulk of his bus. Mounted on the end of the wall it should provide you with an reasonable idea of what all your guest are doing in the living-room while you are all alone in the kitchen. Folks may come to calling you "All Alone Lotus".
All funnin' aside, these pass-throughs are mucho $$ investments for tiny $$. Pass through = resale +value.
Now you talk about a pass through? Reminds me of one of Uncle Shine's remarks when we were kids; "Dickey Birds one hellofa cook, just don't go in the kitchen, ha, ha, ha". Most of us just don't spend all our time at the sink. The reason I passed on the pass thru was due to limited wall space. The kitchen is probably only 8' total past the already 8 foot wide pass thru. There would be no wall left for a vent-a-hood, a cabinet, or anything else, and it would open right over the stove top or really small counter top next to the stove for placing hot skillets. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't care to know what TV show the guests are watching on the other side of the wall, and I sure don't need them to watch the beans boiling. Hope you nix that idea.
The difficulty was: 1) the ceiling was sagging from the previous owners shoddy work and 2) I forgot the cripple studs and had to cut them out after leaving some nails in a corner. I don't know how in the heck I forgot cripple studs as this is the one thing her "coach" got through to her; "cripple stud, cripple stud". Just like the guy in the Valley who learned how to say "pocketknife", he was quite proud of himself, "pocketknife, pocketknife,pocketknife" Sheesh already.
i'd like one, but byron is right abt the wall space. i have to take a closer look and see what my options are. there is 110" of wall fm the corner (next to bath/hall) to the opening we cut out ... new doorway between kitchen and LR.
Two to 2 1/2 feet of it cannot be used for a passthrough to LR as it is back to back with the hallway. No good there. That leaves abt 80" of wall or abt 6 1/2 feet plus or minus, more likely a little plus but not enough to speak of.
With a range hood that is wall mounted, unless there is some real space between it and the range top, got to lose at lease 24" - 30" of potential pass-through space. Depends on exactly where on the countertop the range gets installed as to how much wall could be utilized. Not too much, any way you look at it. I'm thinking another 24-30", possibly, between the range top / range hood and where the hallway begins, i.e., the "corner" of the LR. Since I want to close off that hallway and use that space for master closet (move the hall), that actually will be a LR corner on the LR side.
Probably two feet of potential wall space, then range, then a bit more of countertop on the doorway side of the range top. If any of that made any sense! lol.
Let's see, I'd say going fm the door, there's two feet countertop, two feet for a 24" range top (but more like 30 for the range hood), and another two feet, then you are at the "corner" ... another couple of feet plus of counter but it's in a corner where there is no possibility of a pass through bec it backs the hallway and not the LR. Remember, the kitchen is 2 1/2 feet longer than the LR.
that bookcase was already in the house WITH the world book encyclopedias. lol. i've just stacked "junk" on it bec it was handy. it won't be staying. *grin*
has anyone noticed this fountain that i'm gonna set up in my backyard space when i get around to the landscaping? got it at stines. not put together yet. they closed their location to move into their new big superstore and this was a deeply discounted item bec they didn't want to move it. original $399 but i gave less than one fourth that price ($94). a bargain. it'll be real nice when i get it put together and the pump going. the back of it hangs on a wall, not leaning like it is and not sitting down in the top of the fountain's vessel. there's another piece to it on the ground you can't see and then the pump too, of course.
shoot. i'm not so sure teaching wins out over construction/demolition! i know i've only just begun, but i'm getting a lot more satisfaction and sense of reward fm the construction/demolition than i am from the hours spent on campus!
don't know exactly what kind of venting it is but bubba's in-law's had theirs put in the bar in middle of the kit floor. seems to do well without a hood.
Added some pictures because Lotus doesn't. I know she took some of the ongoing work, but we can't see 'em. Pay no attention to the crooked tile on top (it's the paneling). Pay no attention to the missing pieces on the pot filler, that's been fixed.
those are drawers from ikea and the lazy susan. I put the drawers together, then painted interiors of cabs before installing drawers. that's the first coat on the interiors so it looks better now. i really like the drawers. they are made by blum, fully extending, self closing, gliding. nice. the blue on front of the dishwasher is just sticky paper which it came with and will stay with until the cabs etc are finished. i'm doing a little each evening. it's not anything i can't manage on my own at this stage. that's the new cat whom i call sister because i can't hear myself calling her "freckles" which is the name she came with. she's sweet but a biter. it doesn't hurt but it's a bit irritating all the same.
might put a soffit up there anyway, so the crookedness won't be seen in the end. plus the range hood will go up there at some point. i have to think the soffit through more thoroughly before making a decision on it and other considerations factor in.
yeah. i came home to that pile of "tools" (can you call a wet/dry vac a tool?) and will have to take some time to sort it out. whenever that might be. :\
heh heh. one side of the kitchen at a time. i'm just glad to have a working stove and running water! a real sink in the kitchen! after seven months .... it's been a long wait.
anyway, i think no one likes cottage cheese ceilings so this is probably not the best solution. okay. headed home. late and i'm exhausted and need to be here at 7AM in the morning. got a workshop again. at least it's here and not in alec.
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looks like a big job ahead
A pair of saw horses for $15 and a roller stand for $20 would get you off your knees and into a better mood.
1 renovator combo, regular price, $189, now $149 (while quantities last) equals more demolitions. Keep in ind that you bought a renovator power tool combo.
Awesome! Now be sure to double the studs at each side of your door opening. Good job. Where was byron when this was done? ;o)
Quite good. You ought to be proud of yourself.
What's this? I still see a standing wall.
We are looking into the living room from the kitchen?
considered a pass-through in the wall as well?
yeah! on my list. at least the saw horses are. what is a roller stand? sounds like i might need one.
holding the camera! lol. he was helping all the way. i learned a LOT from him! we did double the studs before we finished closing it up.
hah! he just doesn't know how i'm itching for another hole in the wall!
those wires happen to be how i turn my kitchen light on, for the time being! couple of loose wires hanging from the ceiling and a wire nut ... "let there be light!"
someone narrating an incident yesterday asked me if i knew what a reciprocating saw was. i sd, "yeah, a sawzall, very handy for tearing out drywall, or cutting holes for receptacles." *grin*
that's my oozie!
i thought a jigsaw came in the renovator combo. i didn't get a jigsaw. i did pay $149, or $159. Can't remember which. Are you talking abt a different package that is on sale NOW?
i got the sawzall, the 5 1/2 circular saw, the drill/screwdriver, the vacuum, and i forget what else. i have two batteries and the charger with it. in a separate buy, i got the miter saw. all ryobi. the original box i took back did not have a reciprocating saw.
well, me and bunny did it. that was some work getting that header up as we had to use the scissor jack to jack the durn thing up to get the header boards in!
a breeze!!!??? except for that jacking it up part. actually, that wasn't REAL bad except byron kept saying "watch that it doesn't jump out" i wasn't sure if he meant the jack or the header boards, so i was trying to keep an eye on both!
haha.
notice the hardware for an old pocket door in there? decided to leave that as it looked like more work to get out than it might be worth. figured i'd tear it up trying to get it out. did salvage the door itself tho. it's quite small. maybe 24", if i'm stretching it. it didn't work before we started tearing out the wall. it was stuck in the wall. then, miraculously, it decided to work abt the time we decided to tear it out. lol. anyway, i wanted to close the wall on that end of the kitchen so i can put the new cabinets in there. also, it gives me wall space on the other side in the LR, which is the most likely spot for the new fireplace i ordered.
that's where the old ventahood was wired in. those crazy people were venting it directly into the attic with no exterior hole to the outside! byron sd that meant all the smoke and grease and soot was accumulating in the attic waiting for a fire to happen. guess now it doesn't matter where i put a ventahood, as a hole has to be cut through the roof anyway!
guess i can look at the self venting stove tops too, see what i think of them.
that's right! you can now see clear through fm the baywindow in the LR through that pic window in the kitchen. those curtains will come down. those are just the temporary window coverings on a rod on a couple of nails for privacy and heat conservation in the interim.
yes. i mentioned that possibility to byron but he suggested i'd prefer a little bit of privacy on the stove, sink side of the kitchen. there's still time to cut the hole back out again (cement board! haha - for fireproofing behind the stove area) if it starts seeming like a good idea. if so though, it might mean another header which puts headers pretty much all the way across that end of the house, and not much in the way of wall studs. that was the real reason i bypassed on the pass-through this past weekend.
that's right! you can now see clear through fm the baywindow in the LR through that pic window in the kitchen. those curtains will come down. those are just the temporary window coverings on a rod on a couple of nails for privacy and heat conservation in the interim.
see that portion of wall beyond the cement board? we did not close that up because i was considering shallow shelving in the wall there, spice jar depth. the whole cabinetry on the far wall is coming out. that's all that is left. will redo it all.
A stand with adjustable height and a roller on the top that holds up your lumber when you are working with it.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100026516&N=10000003+90401+502727
Nope. Working from memory.
You want to vent cooking steam and gases into the atmosphere. Self-venting is only good if it is truly utilized with the appliances that draw the stuff from the stove out into the yard. You will likely have to put the stove on an outside wall for this function. A through the attic vent hood allows you to place your stove anywhere.
no wall for the stove. it will be back to back w/ the LR. vent hood it is.
oh. i got the small 18v finish sander also.
Okay. I do think you can find one of those curved mirrors that are on the fender of school buses so the driver can see around the bulk of his bus. Mounted on the end of the wall it should provide you with an reasonable idea of what all your guest are doing in the living-room while you are all alone in the kitchen. Folks may come to calling you "All Alone Lotus".
All funnin' aside, these pass-throughs are mucho $$ investments for tiny $$. Pass through = resale +value.
okay. reconsidering. will look at the wall again. it'd be lovely if folks could see my new range hood from the LR. :)
that looks like a lot of work, but impressive results!
Now you talk about a pass through? Reminds me of one of Uncle Shine's remarks when we were kids; "Dickey Birds one hellofa cook, just don't go in the kitchen, ha, ha, ha". Most of us just don't spend all our time at the sink.
The reason I passed on the pass thru was due to limited wall space. The kitchen is probably only 8' total past the already 8 foot wide pass thru. There would be no wall left for a vent-a-hood, a cabinet, or anything else, and it would open right over the stove top or really small counter top next to the stove for placing hot skillets.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't care to know what TV show the guests are watching on the other side of the wall, and I sure don't need them to watch the beans boiling. Hope you nix that idea.
I'm very impressed. Good job. What you going to tear up and redo next?
The difficulty was: 1) the ceiling was sagging from the previous owners shoddy work and 2) I forgot the cripple studs and had to cut them out after leaving some nails in a corner.
I don't know how in the heck I forgot cripple studs as this is the one thing her "coach" got through to her;
"cripple stud, cripple stud". Just like the guy in the Valley who learned how to say "pocketknife", he was quite proud of himself, "pocketknife, pocketknife,pocketknife" Sheesh already.
Proud of her anyway though, ;)
add romex to that list, you didn't write that on the wall memo. 12/2 w ground.
*big laugh*
laughs-a-lot
awesome! now come on over to our house, we have a wall for you to knock down.
it looks so good already! i would totally do the pass through too, because i like a view from the kitchen.
oh yeah! i thought of that yesterday and meant to ask if i didn't need to grab some while i was at it. how much? does it come in a roll or in lengths?
i'd like one, but byron is right abt the wall space. i have to take a closer look and see what my options are. there is 110" of wall fm the corner (next to bath/hall) to the opening we cut out ... new doorway between kitchen and LR.
Two to 2 1/2 feet of it cannot be used for a passthrough to LR as it is back to back with the hallway. No good there. That leaves abt 80" of wall or abt 6 1/2 feet plus or minus, more likely a little plus but not enough to speak of.
With a range hood that is wall mounted, unless there is some real space between it and the range top, got to lose at lease 24" - 30" of potential pass-through space. Depends on exactly where on the countertop the range gets installed as to how much wall could be utilized. Not too much, any way you look at it. I'm thinking another 24-30", possibly, between the range top / range hood and where the hallway begins, i.e., the "corner" of the LR. Since I want to close off that hallway and use that space for master closet (move the hall), that actually will be a LR corner on the LR side.
Probably two feet of potential wall space, then range, then a bit more of countertop on the doorway side of the range top. If any of that made any sense! lol.
Let's see, I'd say going fm the door, there's two feet countertop, two feet for a 24" range top (but more like 30 for the range hood), and another two feet, then you are at the "corner" ... another couple of feet plus of counter but it's in a corner where there is no possibility of a pass through bec it backs the hallway and not the LR. Remember, the kitchen is 2 1/2 feet longer than the LR.
that bookcase was already in the house WITH the world book encyclopedias. lol. i've just stacked "junk" on it bec it was handy. it won't be staying. *grin*
lol. get a sledge hammer and a reciprocating saw, you'll be good to go!
"Pocketknife"
i think i'm being made fun of here! hee. i still love my little brothers.
has anyone noticed this fountain that i'm gonna set up in my backyard space when i get around to the landscaping? got it at stines. not put together yet. they closed their location to move into their new big superstore and this was a deeply discounted item bec they didn't want to move it. original $399 but i gave less than one fourth that price ($94). a bargain. it'll be real nice when i get it put together and the pump going. the back of it hangs on a wall, not leaning like it is and not sitting down in the top of the fountain's vessel. there's another piece to it on the ground you can't see and then the pump too, of course.
Okay. Pretty fountain.
hmmmf. you sure know how to burst a bubble! where's the awe?
now you see why you went to college?
lol. so i can have this job to finance my demolition project?
no so you don't have to do construction/demolition for a living...
ha
shoot. i'm not so sure teaching wins out over construction/demolition! i know i've only just begun, but i'm getting a lot more satisfaction and sense of reward fm the construction/demolition than i am from the hours spent on campus!
got to make the LR more square tho. it's 15 by 15 1/2. lacks six inches being square.
yea.. it can be fun.. esp doing it for yourself
don't know exactly what kind of venting it is but bubba's in-law's had theirs put in the bar in middle of the kit floor. seems to do well without a hood.
Added some pictures because Lotus doesn't. I know she took some of the ongoing work, but we can't see 'em.
Pay no attention to the crooked tile on top (it's the paneling). Pay no attention to the missing pieces on the pot filler, that's been fixed.
Nope. So this is "as good as it gets" till the tools are cleared away.
wow, things are shaping up. glad to see it.
those are drawers from ikea and the lazy susan. I put the drawers together, then painted interiors of cabs before installing drawers. that's the first coat on the interiors so it looks better now. i really like the drawers. they are made by blum, fully extending, self closing, gliding. nice. the blue on front of the dishwasher is just sticky paper which it came with and will stay with until the cabs etc are finished. i'm doing a little each evening. it's not anything i can't manage on my own at this stage. that's the new cat whom i call sister because i can't hear myself calling her "freckles" which is the name she came with. she's sweet but a biter. it doesn't hurt but it's a bit irritating all the same.
might put a soffit up there anyway, so the crookedness won't be seen in the end. plus the range hood will go up there at some point. i have to think the soffit through more thoroughly before making a decision on it and other considerations factor in.
yeah. i came home to that pile of "tools" (can you call a wet/dry vac a tool?) and will have to take some time to sort it out. whenever that might be. :\
It looks just fine. Should be great when everything around it goes in.
Any tools that you don't recognize I claim. Good job on the tile, too.
Just add the bakery and it should be fine.
Tape the joints, bed them in, get a hopper, and blow in on. Done.
Now that wasn't so bad, was it?
Good job. looks sturdy. Put those doors and drawers on and he looks like an old pro.
yes. very sturdy. much better than those particle board jobs at the local hardware stores.
heh heh. one side of the kitchen at a time. i'm just glad to have a working stove and running water! a real sink in the kitchen! after seven months .... it's been a long wait.
i don't think aaron will appreciate that. haha. his toolbox was left on the back porch so it's not even in this pic. lol.
Sounds easy enough. Matching existing knock down texture is the tricky part. And you left out the part "cover up everything!".
heee. i noticed that too.
anyway, i think no one likes cottage cheese ceilings so this is probably not the best solution. okay. headed home. late and i'm exhausted and need to be here at 7AM in the morning. got a workshop again. at least it's here and not in alec.
*blush*
that's the one i didn't have room for.. i think it's broken
this is marvelous. i love this.
and this.
and this.
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